(I’m a poet and I didn’t even know it.)
Since starting at NGI, I’ve received a bunch of emails and questions about the school and my time there, so I decided to put together a post answering some of the most frequently asked questions. Feel free to leave more questions in the comments section, and I’ll be happy to answer them in another post!
The Food
When you get assigned a certain recipe to make while your peers make others, how does the recipe sharing take place? Do you still learn how to make everything?
Before starting each class, we receive a packet of the recipes and information for the day. The chef usually goes through all of the recipes with us, describing them and giving us tips, and then divides us randomly into the groups we’ll be working in. Once in our groups, we negotiate who will do what recipes- most of the time, you get to work on your first choice, and you usually help classmates with their recipes, too. You don’t get hands-on experience with every dish, but since most of them are related- for instance, they’re all chicken recipes, or they’re all pies- you still understand how to prep them all.
Do instructors offer alternatives for those on a vegan diet or if they do not consume alcohol?
Yes! You don’t have to taste anything you don’t want to, and most recipes offer a vegan version (unless the focus is something animal based, like poultry day or eggs). Vegans are not required to take the animal protein classes or handle meat if they don’t want to, which is very understanding compared to most schools where they don’t give a damn what your ethical beliefs are. (I would, however, recommend still taking the classes and learning to cook with meat regardless of whether you eat it. It’s a part of the culinary world, and vegan restaurants are few and far between.) As for the alcohol, it’s almost always cooked off in the prep process- for instance, we use a lot of red and white wine, but they’re heated enough so that their only purpose is to add flavor.
Fave thing or top few things you ate during your time?
That’s a toughie!! I really really loved our Friday Night Dinner, especially the collard greens, jalepeno jam and pie crust. On poultry day I remember the chef made us ginger meatballs, which I still think about. Pasta day was awesome, and obviously I loved the whole baking part- at least until I started to get sick of eating so much!
The School
What is your class schedule like, and how much of your time is spend doing hands on cooking vs. lecture?
Full-time classes run Monday to Thursday, 9:15-4:15, and 9:15-1:15 on Fridays. You usually get about an hour lunch break. I’d say about 2/3 of the time is spent in the kitchen, and 1/3 is spend on lecture, though it varies with what you’re working on. Also, you do have to spend a significant amount of time working the Friday Night Dinners (5 shifts are required) and completing extracurricular “stewarding hours,” in which you help set up for public classes or assist in demonstrations.
Would you recommend the full-time program over the part-time?
For me, it was a better choice, but if you’re someone who likes to take their time and really have time to digest information, part-time is probably a better option. Cooking five days a week can be exhausting, so the full-time program is definitely more intense.
Why did you choose this over other veg culinary schools like Bauman?
To be honest, the only culinary schools I looked at were in NYC, and I liked the health-based approach NGI had compared to schools like ICE or French Culinary. Two students in my class had done programs at Bauman though, and they said that Natural Gourmet was a far better experience.
How much of what you learn have prepared you to work as a chef in a restaurant, as a food consultant and home chef – i.e. preparing food for others?
I’d say all of it! The strength of NGI is that you learn the whole story behind the food, not just how to cook it, so you can make better decisions about what you choose to eat. It’s a short program, so you’re not going to come out a Mario Battali, but I think everyone who graduates is pretty confident in the kitchen.
I’d be interested to know whether the school helps with job placement once the program is over. For example, do they have connections with restaurants? And does the NGI name seem to carry much weight when you are interviewing?
Once you graduate from NGI, you have access to a job board that’s posted online; in addition, the school does help with internship placement if you ask, which can often lead to jobs. From my impression there doesn’t seem to be a huge connection with any singular restaurants, but the NGI name seems pretty well respected in general. Obviously, it’s not the same clout you’d get from a longer, multi-year program, but that’s to be expected. It’s a reputable place that teaches you solid skills you can expand upon in the professional world.
Anything you didn’t like about it?
Well, yes. To be honest, and I never thought I’d say this, sometimes the health focus got to me. Knowledge is power, but when you get to the point where you can look at kale or tomatoes and list what health dangers they pose- well, I’m not really sure that’smentally healthy. I plan on writing a post later where I really reflect on the entire experience, but in general, I kind of wish we’d learned to use things like white sugar and red meat a little more. Overall, my experience was a positive one, but like anything, there are things I would change.
The $$
Do you feel the $$ spent was worth it, in general?
This is a tough one. NGI is about the same as a semester in college- roughly $25,000. It’s a lot of money, and since I think higher education in general is ridiculously overpriced, I wouldn’t say that anything you pay $25,000 and only spend five months in is worth it. That said, most culinary schools cost the same or more per month, so in that context, I’d say it’s worth it. Does that make sense? I was very, very, very fortunate to have my parents pay for it (I’m fully aware of how lucky I am and I’ll be off their bankroll the second I get a full-time job), and I did feel apprehensive about the chunk of change that was being dropped, but any other program would have cost as much and I did learn a lot. I guess my point is that if you’re considering NGI or any other cooking school, be sure that you’re going to benefit from it in some way, because otherwise it’s hard to justify.
What is the living situation of most students? What can you say about the average cost of living in NY?
Uhhhh…it’s expensive. I don’t think people realize how costly this city is until they live here, and that’s one of the biggest reasons I’m not planning on staying here. Besides rent, things like groceries, restaurants, bars and laundromats are most expensive, too. Most students have apartments, which you probably won’t find for less than $1,200 a month- and that would be a pretty dingy place. Definitely something to keep in mind when budgeting things out.
Anything else you’d like to see answered? Ask away!
You’re right…the cost of living in NYC is truly prohibitive. I moved into an apartment and did not account for all of the expenses. I definitely took for granted things like free laundry! What are your plans post grad? Are you moving back to PA? Will you miss NYC?
great post gab:)
I currently live in NYC as well and it is an expensive city, but compared to Zurich, Swizterland (my former home) it is pretty cheap. I bet you can imagine how astronomical the prices are for housing, food and basics in Zurich…
I have one question about NGI, how was the application process?
Also, what are your goals now? Do you want to become a full-time chef?
What a great post!!!
I am so happy you liked it so much and I cant wait to see where the future takes you!!
You are very fortunate to have attended, and you are such a great daughter to appreciate that!!
<3 xoxo
Loved reading through this - I got your excited/nervousness about the program before you started, but haven;’t had a chance to pick your brain about what you enjoyed yet!
I can’t wait to hear where you are going for your internship!
I loved reading through this and getting a true insight into what you thought! - I lived on LI (about 20 mins from NYC) for a semester and traveled to the city quite a bit. It is truly expensive. The laundry, the drinks at a bar, the transportation, the rent, EVERYTHING is so darn expensive! ….I swear, I paid for the experience. It was worth it to teach in New York though. I’ll never forget it!
……Thanks for sharing all of this- the good and bad.
I am glad you were upfront about how much everything costs, because education is $$$.
I see a few questions of mine that I asked you answered here…thank you! And for taking the time to compile all the Q & A’s….very interesting!
Wishing you had learned to use more white sugar and not focusing quite so much on all the health aspects….interesting!
And the tuition…that is so expensive. Not just for this school, but school tuition in general, is…insane. As the parent of a small child, my heart gets palpitations and I get sweaty palms thinking about how I am going to save more money for her college/higher education fund. Heck, even kindergarten tuition can be ridiculous these days!
Can’t wait for a longer post, too. I love these types of posts. Thanks for sharing it all with us, not only in this post, but your whole experience day in and day out.
So great that you did this post. I really didn’t realize everything that was involved with this but you did such a great job explaining. Can’t wait to see what the next chapter brings for you!
I’ve looked over the application process but do you know the percentage of applicants usually taken? I’m assuming since you studied french then previous experience isn’t a must, so what do they base it on? Grades?
Also, are you hoping to move to a different, cheaper city, or back home?
I second the question about the prior experience necessary!
This is a great post- thanks for sharing both the good and the bad. It’s sometimes hard to be completely honest about something that you’ve spent so much money and time on… but it seems like you have a true appreciation for the experience, while not pretending it was perfect at all times.
This was really interesting to read! Gosh I can’t believe how much money you guys have to pay for school in the US! It blows my mind!
I have a question for you - did you ever work with or meet an instructor at NGI named Peter Berley? He’s one of my absolute favourite cookbook authors and I just found out that he teaches there!
Did any of your classmates have gluten allergies? If so, how is the process different for them? Clearly there’s a lot of variety in alternative cooking at this school but I imagine there’s time during pastry lessons or lessons with faux meat that posed difficulties.
1) It’s nice to hear more about the school. A girl I know, Amanda Skip, went there. 2) Also, it’s refreshing how grateful you are to have your parents pay for it. It’s so nice of them to pay for undergrad AND culinary school. Some people would just expect it, but it really seems like you appreciate it! 3) I enjoy creeping on your blog and hearing about all your adventures. I’m learning a lot!
Thank you thank you thank you for this! I’m seriously considering NGI in the future, and this post is a wealth of information
I just got back from the city on sunday, and the prices still shock me. Produce costs are ouuuut of this world.. I don’t know how you do it, girl!
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